Sunday, August 07, 2005

Drive-Thru Spirituality --- Part 2

Intentionally or unintentionally, my previous posting on Drive-Thru Spirituality has piqued Greg, who I dearly hope isn't the latest reincarnation of c.t., Geneva67, Caroline Trace, Alexander, Crankmonster, and Thucydides67, for if he is, I've just wasted 20 minutes of my evening "veg" time.

Greg's reply is, as usual, italicized and blocked off.

Not having a fallacy dictionary ready to hand I'll not go into your sins along those lines and allow other readers to draw their own conclusions, but I'll just say this: reading the Bible is hardly the easy way out. It, in fact, requires more effort and directed-attention than any secondary or reference book by a considerable degree.

Did Greg sneak into the Armstrong locker room and steal the playbook, noting the dog-eared and heavily-marked page where the Armstrong Bluff play is called, whereby one pontificates about the multiplicity of the errors of another, but, in an alleged feat of magnanimity, one refuses to give any specifics. So, we have a vapid and empty claim here.

Let it be noted that Greg made some claims about me; I pointed out with specific examples that they're wrong, and then asked some innocuous exegetical questions from my own present study that somebody who is illumined by the Holy Spirit could answer definitively. No fallacies on my part.

Let it further be noted that I don't have background programs that detect and remove arguments and instantiations from posts, so, Greg should feel free to insert some argumentation for his sweeping claims having full confidence that Blogger and this PP site don't engage in an argument-vetting process.

When Greg states that "reading the Bible is hardly the easy way out," note the shift to something different than what he claimed in his original post. There must be another person with the Pedantic Protestant handle out there in cyberville who stated something like "reading the Bible is the easy way out," as one will search in vain for my saying or implying something like that. In contradistinction, I claimed that invoking the Holy Spirit is not a substitute for careful study.

When Greg states that the Bible "requires more effort and directed-attention than any secondary or reference book by a considerable degree," I might agree or disagree, but again, he must have me confused with that other Pedantic Protestant who must've said that, since I never made that claim.

Everything else you've stated, aside from making my point rather hilariously, also demonstrates this: when you have your nose pressed against the bark of a single tree you aren't seeing the forest as a whole. To get understanding of the Bible you have to see the parts in relation to the whole, which requires seeing the whole to begin with. Only complete readings will accomplish this. Complete readings of commentaries will not accomplish this.

My guess from the triumphalism above is that my exegetical questions culled from the Greek text of Romans somehow demonstrate Greg's point hilariously. I'm glad to bring a laugh into somebody's life, although this has to rank high on the unintentional comedy scale.

Perhaps Greg, who affects himself to speak authoritatively on the synthesis of the Biblical texts into a harmonious whole [no small feat!], can, in lieu of once again making a banal general statement about seeing the forest as a whole, answer the questions about just what Paul meant in those four passages and back up his assertions.

Finally, nobody here stated anything about "complete readings of commentaries" along the lines of which Greg responded. Perhaps Greg is thinking about something that the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus or the Great Pumpkin said and mistakenly imputing it to me.

Greg concludes:
As for the value of teachers and commentaries and dictionaries and what not in general: they make a good slave but a poor master, to paraphrase an old saying.

By way of reply, again, nobody here said anything regarding commentaries along the lines to which Greg is responding.


Blogger steve said...

Don't worry about Greg. The Holy Spirit just whispered in my ear that Greg is a secret agent for Rome.

Monday, August 08, 2005 8:17:00 AM  
Blogger Pedantic Protestant said...

Is that the same secret agent who, while we were looking the other way, has been secretly replacing the copies of the pure Textus Receptus with demonic texts such as Satanicus Vaticanus, eclectic texts, and Folger's Coffee?

[Groan to the early 80's commercial reference there.]

Monday, August 08, 2005 10:52:00 AM  
Blogger steve said...

Yes, I just got off the phone with the Holy Spirit and he confirmed that it's the very same vassal of Rome.

Monday, August 08, 2005 1:12:00 PM  
Anonymous greg said...

The last time I received such deadly sarcasm my nephew had just turned 16.

Monday, August 08, 2005 2:15:00 PM  
Blogger Pedantic Protestant said...

What is the HS's phone number? It is 777-something. I forget the last four digits every time I sin.

Monday, August 08, 2005 2:18:00 PM  
Blogger Pedantic Protestant said...

C'mon now Greg, pour yourself a nice cold one in your official PP stein, sit back, and have a great day. If the HS illumines you in a private way, rejoice that you are infinitely farther ahead than I am.

But, if you're going to make these loopy blanket charges about our deficiencies, it would be nice for them to be supported with evidence and such. That seems fair, does it not?

Monday, August 08, 2005 2:24:00 PM  
Blogger steve said...

I used to waste lots of time and money reading all the newest commentaries, but that's before I invested in a phone card from Benny Hinn International Ministries which gives me 100 prepaid minutes with the Man Upstairs!

Monday, August 08, 2005 2:48:00 PM  
Blogger GeneMBridges said...

Wow, Steve,

You got the Benny Hinn card!...9 Trinities go with that one...Bonus! Woohoo! I'm ordering mine today!

Monday, August 08, 2005 4:38:00 PM  
Blogger Pedantic Protestant said...

Steve --- if you can spare some of those prepaid card minutes, be sure please to tell the Man Upstairs that the PP says "hey" and wants to know why his prayers of Jabez haven't brought him fame, fortune, hordes of admiring lusty Evangelical hotties, a blog with readership in the millions, and the ability to fly like Superman. Thanks.

Monday, August 08, 2005 4:43:00 PM  

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