Thursday, September 08, 2005

Funk-Talk is Dead

Robert Funk, founder of the Jesus Seminar has recently passed away.

In tribute to Funk, let's consider some of his comments.

The God of the metaphysical age is dead. There is not a personal god out there external to human beings and the material world. We must reckon with a deep crisis in god talk and replace it with talk about whether the universe has meaning and whether human life has purpose.

--- Robert Funk, 1st of 21 Theses for "The Coming Radical Reformation"

PP Commentary: Never underestimate the power of pseudointellectual drivel to make a logical fallacy a romantic, nay, a daring thing to embrace. Here, Funk says that we "must" reckon with a deep crisis, we "must" replace it with talk about, of all things, whether the universe has meaning and whether human life has purpose. It sounds to me like Funk has already begged his own question about whether human life has a purpose because he sure acts as if certain things are important, namely, repudiating "the God of the metaphysical age" and things such as a corporeal resurrection [10th thesis]. Actually, the entire list of 21 theses of Funk betrays the idea that he thinks his stated points are important and worth embracing, for Funk seems purpose-driven in contending that god-talk is dead.

We should give Jesus a demotion. It is no longer credible to think of Jesus as divine. Jesus' divinity goes together with the old theistic way of thinking about God.

--- Funk, 6th thesis

PP Commentary: Funk needs to be more accurate here: it is no longer credible if you're a liberal who espouses metaphysical naturalism and negative higher criticism to think of Jesus as divine.

Note too the appeal to emotion: "the old theistic way" of thinking about God is presented in a use of loaded language, presumably to be compared with the new truths that brilliant men like Funk have unearthed to share with we benighted Fundamentalists.

The kingdom is a journey without end: one arrives only by departing. It is therefore a perpetual odyssey. Exile and exodus are the true conditions of authentic existence.

--- Funk, 18th thesis

PP Commentary: Doesn't Funk's poetic description of the human spirit just make you break out the hankies?

(1) How is Funk in a position to know the journey is "without end" ? He's already denigrated scriptural propositional revelation, so, in the end, Funk is merely in position to know about the journey because Funk has placed great confidence in Funk's contention of Funk's assertion regarding Funk's thesis.

(2) I'd like to see how one would begin to argue that "exile and exodus are the true conditions of authentic existence." And, this is one of those squishy liberal statements that really is something that could only fly in today's modern religious climate whereby one randomly connects "religious" words and acts as if the concocted collection of words is actually a meaningful sentence, at which point we're supposed to pat the word-connector on the back and shower him with accolades of intellectual greatness. What is exile? Exile from what? Exodus --- what exactly is that?


Robert Funk died on 3 September. And, on 3 September [or at some "future time,"] he most likely discovered firsthand that his theses were quite off-the-mark, and that truth is not determined by sorting out and counting colored beads that have been dropped into a voting box.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:24:00 PM  
Blogger Pedantic Protestant said...

Darn spammers!

Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:26:00 PM  
Blogger JIBBS said...

July, 1998--Funk: ' dead'.

Sept., 2005---God: " dead'.

Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:27:00 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

There's unregenerate and unaware of God.

And there's unregenerate and aware of and usually hardened towards God.

All bad theology (and intentionally Kingdom of Satan propaganda theology) is done by unregenerate fools who somewhere along the line have taken an interest in God. They always become 'teachers'. Professed atheists do the same. Always teaching...

Thursday, September 08, 2005 4:24:00 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

Erase the 'all' in the third paragraph above. Replace it with 'most'. There can be legitimately regenerate innocents who espouse bad theology. Probably not for long, but for times in their lives...

Thursday, September 08, 2005 4:27:00 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

Kingdom of Satan Propaganda Theology

Yes, I like that. I'll call my copyright lawyer...

Thursday, September 08, 2005 4:29:00 PM  
Blogger Pedantic Protestant said...

Contact the Red Romanist. I think he does that sort of copyright law. You two would go well together.

Thursday, September 08, 2005 4:35:00 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

I was the reason he ceased taking comments on his blog.

Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:35:00 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

Typically scatter-brained, or just simply disingenuous, of you to suggest I - a five solas, doctrines of grace, Calvinist - would be on the same page with a Romanist...

It's the political liberals and the neo-orthodox theological types that engage in the 'just say anything' behaviour...

Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:58:00 PM  
Blogger Pedantic Protestant said...

c.t. --- lighten up a bit, please.

Thursday, September 08, 2005 9:43:00 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

Let the reader(s) come to their own conclusion... Saying I'm on the same page with a Romanist is just simply in the 'just say anything' category... I get that from political liberals, and from theological liberals. Just the facts of the matter.

Thursday, September 08, 2005 9:59:00 PM  

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